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Post by dominus13 on Oct 7, 2018 12:17:54 GMT -5
So what do you think about NIN?
Do they deserve the label? Or are they undeserving?
What say you?
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Post by midiquestions on Oct 9, 2018 7:29:39 GMT -5
I think Fixed is a great EP and worthy of the name, but generally speaking, I find the remixes (Further Down the Spiral, Closer to God, etc.) far more compelling than the originals and wish they had stuck to that more abstract style; it was better music. Trent always came from more of a pop orientation if you ask me, which wasn't good for the band, and combined with the ragey vibe, it's try-hard all the way. PHM has some passable dark synthpop stuff on it, but the whiny and overly literal lyrics are ridiculous, not just on that album but on most of them. Like I said, give me a NIN remix album over a regular album any day. Further Down the Spiral was the last NIN album worth anything IMO; The Fragile is just incoherent and needed editing really badly, and after that, it's pure masturbation and pop songs.
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Post by dominus13 on Oct 9, 2018 11:54:58 GMT -5
I’ve always liked their music but Trent always sounds to me like he’s having something with metal bristles shoved where the sun doesn’t shine. And the lyrics are certainly as trite as they get. Even worse than Sisters of Mercy lyrically. But when your target market is preteens I guess you can’t get too deep.
I’ve tried for many years to like NIN but my cringing hasn’t gone away since their 1st album. I saw them live once when they toured with Bauhaus which is the reason I went. I couldn’t make it through the entire NIN set and had to leave. I just found the performance so tame and lackluster it was like some crappy cock-rock band.
That show really turned me off even more than ever. Not once did it cross my mind that I was attending an Industrial concert.
Honestly they should have been opening for Bauhaus not the other way around...
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Post by 1890media on Nov 17, 2018 10:53:18 GMT -5
I saw them open for Skinny Puppy in 87ish up at City Gardens. They were a good warm up band. Funny how after that tour their music completely changes to more "Puppyish". Anyway never gave them a chance after that. Puppy on the other hand blew the roof off!
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Post by Admin on Nov 17, 2018 11:17:56 GMT -5
I saw them open for Skinny Puppy in 87ish up at City Gardens. They were a good warm up band. Funny how after that tour their music completely changes to more "Puppyish". Anyway never gave them a chance after that. Puppy on the other hand blew the roof off! It's not a surprise to me they got that Puppy sound considering Trent raided the studio they were recording in and stole discs with their music, samples and sequences while the band was out taking a break. And it's also no surprise that NIN's early work sounded almost exactly like Die Warzau considering Trent recruited 2 of the band's 3 members right out from under Jim Marcus resulting in Die Warzau going defunct. Damn shame too because Die Warzau was much more creative and interesting IMO and if they stayed together I'm sure they would have been the 1st big commercial success of the genre instead of NIN. Between the unethical acquisition of human capital and the crass marketing stunts like recording in the Tate house without any decency or regard for the Tate family NIN just always reeked of corporate commercial greed and bad sportsmanship to me. Definitely not deserving of the success they got.
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Post by dominus13 on Nov 17, 2018 12:32:49 GMT -5
Let’s not forget about the fact Trent had family in the music industry too. That always irked me regarding their meteoric rise to the top 40.
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